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Yesterday I heard a story on NPR about a proposed law in Seattle to add a 20-cent surcharge for every plastic bag a customer's purchases require. Interestingly, though Washingtonians are known for their environmental sensitivities, polls show a majority are opposed to the bill. What about you? If your state wanted to do this, would you support it?
I'm off to take my son to catch a flight for a job interview. Barge lines are still hiring!
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The many women who have had this happen to them know just how Hillary felt and understand the tone and content of her response - one can take just so much of this treatment. Yes, and women do it to each other too.
I think her frustration is beginning to show. I'd like to see a little more temper sometimes. But this did not look good for Secretary Clinton, did not look stateswoman like at all. In typical fashion, the media are choosing to ignore the translation error and apologies and just focus on her being upstaged by Bill.
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Oh, come on already! She was supposed to check all her emotions at the door and become a robot when she took the oath? I think not. When men show a flash of anger, they're strong leaders! When women show anger, they get called all kinds of names...unladylike, "b" word", etc. Enough of the double standard. You know, maybe she was just tired from the travel. Who knows?
In any event, saying it "did not look good" sounds like some kind of MSNBC or other MSM crap. Funny, my instant reaction was, "you go, woman!" I loved it. I guess it's a gender thing.
"Right wing sledge hammers never, ever help us." Pacific John
then I'm proud to be of that gender and prouder still of Hillary standing up for herself because so few women have enough spunk to do that. She also stands up for other women.
Also, I am finding that many men also applaud her actions. It's the media and the bots that are doing what they always do as they endevor to make everyone hate her.
Enough of the sexist and misogynist pressure on women to be "ladylike", smile at everything and everybody and prove they are brainless and gutless - mere globs of clay with breasts, to be molded and controlled by men.
Standing up for any woman when she is acting like a human being instead of a barbie doll is a good thing for all of us to do.
should I lie? Should I say what the women here want me to say or what I saw?
Maybe I'm your laboratory rat for male chauvanist thinking, but that is me so use it for good, not to throw feminist talking points my way.
:-?
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If Hillary had been a male the press wouldn't have batted an eye. When men do something like this they're "strong and forceful leaders". When women do exactly the same thing, they're b*tches.
While I recognize that it would be good to keep it under control in view of the above, this was a simple statement of fact. Hillary, not Bill, is SoS. Anyone looking for more in it is reaching.
Creeper, I totally agree with you.
If only they could walk in our shoes for even 24 hours to see what it's like.
"Right wing sledge hammers never, ever help us." Pacific John
www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/08/06/hate-crime-disappears-into-the-memory-hole/#comments
I wonder if anybody ever stands-up and asks Bill what Hillary thinks of issues when he is speaking in other countries? I kinda doubt it.
Exactly.
"Right wing sledge hammers never, ever help us." Pacific John
Give that girl a gold star.
Excuse me? EXCUSE ME?? No, on second thought, I don't need to be excused. How about my response came out of my own individual brain and heart. I don't have to repeat any group's "talking points" to express my opinion and reflect my own personal life's experiences.
No, no one said you have to "lie", but don't get your knickers in a ridiculous twist if we don't happen to agree with you. Do you want this blog to be the Hampster's echo chamber? Sheesh.
Like I said before, it's clearly a gender thing. You see mouthy Hillary, I see a strong, take-no-prisoners Secretary of State.
"Right wing sledge hammers never, ever help us." Pacific John
n/t
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The Portsmouth "Town Hall" protesters were showing up at 9 this morning. I think they'll be in their cars for a few minutes riding out this massive thunder storm.
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"W" left the keys to the higher power in the football for Obie to use.
That thing looks wicked - don't send it our way.
I know you're thrilled, but here is the local live feed of the Portsmouth, NH event. Inside only. If I find a feed of the protesters I'll post it.
http://www.wmur.com/video/20356171/
They must not be allowing any cameras outside. Normally our local cable news, NECN would be out there interviewing peopl.
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I am watching this townhall on T.V. Boy, is that gym packed to the gills. Obama is trying to make jokes, as usual, and he is spouting a load of crap, as usual. I would like to know just how he thinks he is going to change what insurance companies do and how they conduct business? These are private companies, not government owned. They will continue to deny coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, charge ridiculous amounts for premiums, drop people who have to make a lot of claims and in general do business as usual. Everything Obama is just a bunch of baloney that all these people in this gym in Portsmouth seem to be swallowing pretty easily.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/11/clinton-condemns-conviction-burmas-suu-kyi/
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I'm going on vacation. To my other websites for some virtual R&R.
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What other websites?
You have to stay and see how it ends. If you go on vacation you have to pack us Partizanes up along with your wheel and take us with you.
But we sure do understand the temptation to chuck it all sometimes. Wanna go for a boat ride? I'll show ya' stuff like this:
See the part of the tree where the bark is missing? Beavers are working on this tree. The slough where it grows is rapidly filling in. The beavers are probably figuring on this tree as the foundation for a new dam.
Here's what the chips they take off the tree look like:
Each of those long runs of wood is made by the beaver's front incisors. They go along a tree or branch like humans eating corn on the cob. When the chips reach two or three inches in width they fall off the tree. Then the beaver goes a little deeper on the next run.
They don't always drop the tree where they want it. The islands are full of trees that were miscalculated and fell halfway, only to be stopped by a neighboring tree. Then it's back to the drawing board for the beavers.
Boat leaves in an hour. All aboard.
| posted by Melissa McEwan | Tuesday, August 11, 2009
shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/08/good-diplomacy-dismissed-as-clintons.html
This says it all: "This is not an attitude that should be encouraged or even tolerated with a clenched-tooth smile. It is a dangerous, pernicious attitude that keeps women oppressed all over the world...."
Thanks, twandx, for the link. I'm so proud of Secretary Clinton for standing up for all women, everywhere.
"Right wing sledge hammers never, ever help us." Pacific John
I'm proud of you for using the phrase, "you go, woman" in one of your great comments. You show respect for Hillary and all women including yourself.
I know there are those who say "girl" is OK and that it's silly to make a fuss about words but historically and presently, words do count. Words influence, demean and continue to condition women to be all that a "girl" [pre-pubic female] can be. And that grown up women are not a good thing to be.
There are some great articles supporting women and I was happily surprised to hear Mary Matialin praising Sec. Clinton for all her hard work during an interview at CNN. The boyz had brought her in to condemn Hillary's reaction to the question but Mary stuck it right back into their faces.
...do count, twandx. Btw, did you see BTD's piece on "Patriarchy?" http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/8/11/81636/8325
P.S. Go Matalin! Misogyny is not a Democratic vs. Republican issue, it's a woman's issue...period. Ask Sarah Palin.
"Right wing sledge hammers never, ever help us." Pacific John
Whatever it was, this handful of words is getting a heluva lot more attention than it deserves. Isn't that the way it always goes when a woman steps out of line?
Phooey on 'em. They're gonna drive me back to the river. Forgot to unhook the boat last night, so it's ready to go. Seems a shame to waste it...